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ChristopherNissan200sx
04-08-2009, 04:56 PM
Does anybody know of any aftermarket turbo manifolds for a GA16DE motor??? I've seen a few, but no 4 tube manifolds. Are 2 pipes better than 4 pipes or something? And the only kits I've seen are for a T20 turbo (too small). Are there any other kinds of turbo manifolds for a GA16DE motor for a T25, T3/4, or T28 turbo? Help please, I gotta go faster.

ChristopherNissan200sx
04-08-2009, 05:08 PM
These are a few pics of what I can find, but I don't know where to get one from.

http://lion.esosoft.net/hotshot.com/graphics/img_16turbo.jpg


Note that this engine is not the ones that are in America.
The engine does not have the VTC mechanism (Located on the engine, passenger side)
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4946/tnga16det20080330002wa6.jpg

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/725/02052008701gu7.jpg

One of my favorites (custom made though).
http://forums.trinituner.com/upload/IMG_2598.JPG

ErixSEL
04-08-2009, 07:38 PM
I (http://www.sr20-forum.com/forced-induction/16017-fs-custom-turbo-parts.html) am banned.

I am banned.

ChristopherNissan200sx
04-08-2009, 08:56 PM
Ok well thats not really the manifold I was looking for, I don't want a 2 pipe turbo manifold.

This is the kind I keep seeing, no 4 pipe manifolds just 2 pipes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/DSC04357-1-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/DSC04359-1.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/DSC04426-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/blownb310/DSC04435-1.jpg

I'm looking for a 4 pipe turbo manifold. Suggestions??? Someone point me in the right direction please.

AnthonyB13
04-08-2009, 11:16 PM
These are a few pics of what I can find, but I don't know where to get one from.

http://lion.esosoft.net/hotshot.com/graphics/img_16turbo.jpg



This is a Hotshot turbo header 1-626-444-0806 or sales@hsperfomance.com

NathanM
04-08-2009, 11:32 PM
What is the weight difference between an SR20 and a GA16

ErixSEL
04-08-2009, 11:40 PM
Hahaha Hot Shot is not around anymore.... They haven't been for a long time. That is 4 pipe. Just cast as it looks like 2 but there is 4 in there lol Why does it matter?

AnthonyB13
04-08-2009, 11:45 PM
Thats funny, their website still shows so I guess google lied to me, I am now ashamed. But oh well I am sure you can find something out there, just do a search in google, there were more options that popped up but Hotshot was the only one that I remembered from earlier dealings on the SR forums.

NathanM
04-09-2009, 12:23 AM
In addition to the weight difference question, is turboing a motor with this VTC like trying to turbo a VVL motor or a V-TEC motor, just not that practical?

Dustin
04-09-2009, 10:22 AM
Get the cast one, your not going to be pushing enough boost for it to matter if you have a cast or tube style mani, plus you will never ever break it.

ChristopherNissan200sx
04-09-2009, 03:32 PM
I guess I should just drop the whole thing and do an SR20 swap and turbo that.



Back to Nathan's VTC question and engine weight difference.

GA16DE = The GA block is full iron.
SR20DE = The SR block is half iron, half aluminum (some say all aluminum).

This is a big factor in the weight difference. People say that the GA motor and the SR motor actually weight close to each other. This blew my mind, I was sure that there would be a significant weight difference between the 2 motosr (I mean there is a 0.4L difference between the 2).



The VTC: Nissan Variable Cam Timing (commonly known as N-VCT, VCT, NVCS or CVTC) is an automobile variable valve timing technology developed by Nissan. N-VCT varies the timing of the valves by rotating the cam shaft(s); valve lift and duration are NOT altered. The system is implemented with an electric solenoid which is controlled by the cars ECU. Some Nissan engines only have N-VCT on the inlet cam (such as the RB25DE/DET) while others have it on both the inlet and exhaust cams.

Here is a good example of the VTC in a GA16 in action.
GA16DE VTC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5gafgm79hE)

Not all GA16's have VTC, but it is easy to pick out.
Passenger side of valve cover, there is a hump sticking out, directly behind that its the solenoid poking out, sliver and looks like a cylinder.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p79/yatesy27/FrontStrutBrace3.jpg


Non-VTC motor
Notice no hump or solenoid
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/381000-381999/381047_26_full.jpg

Its not to bad to turbo a VTC motor at all. Some of the RB motors have VTC too.

Jamesboost
04-11-2009, 04:42 PM
here you go chris, have a lil faith in the ga16de , video of one with stock internals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqB71UqtkPg&feature=player_embedded

ChristopherNissan200sx
04-11-2009, 06:27 PM
Wow that was amazing. I've always have faith in my GA16DE, lets get that straight. I've always tried ot make it more. Now I guess its time for the turbo. Thanks James for the motivational booster. But you have to give me more info on that setup.

Jamesboost
04-11-2009, 06:53 PM
go to www.notnser.com and how much horsepower are u wanting? u can get 200-240whp farily cheap

ChristopherNissan200sx
04-11-2009, 10:31 PM
I was hoping for 300hp, but 240 is a good number. I mean right now I'm at 110 hp if I'm lucky, so 100 more hp would be a big improvement.

Jason@JGY
04-16-2009, 10:17 AM
We sell one for $259 that is cast.

NathanM
04-16-2009, 05:18 PM
That's a good price

Jason@JGY
04-17-2009, 10:50 PM
[quote=ChristopherNissan200sx;2014]I guess I should just drop the whole thing and do an SR20 swap and turbo that.



Back to Nathan's VTC question and engine weight difference.

GA16DE = The GA block is full iron.
SR20DE = The SR block is half iron, half aluminum (some say all aluminum).

This is a big factor in the weight difference. People say that the GA motor and the SR motor actually weight close to each other. This blew my mind, I was sure that there would be a significant weight difference between the 2 motosr (I mean there is a 0.4L difference between the 2).

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The SR is all aluminum and all power. Both motors are aluminum heads. They weigh almost the same

mickey93ser
04-26-2009, 03:25 AM
Go ahead and do the SR swap and stop BS'in....

ChristopherNissan200sx
04-26-2009, 07:25 AM
You are right. SR all the way.

Dustin
04-27-2009, 01:52 AM
SR's suck


KA24DE baby

NathanM
04-27-2009, 02:35 PM
Both suck... VK56 all the way!!!

Can't remember who was doing that swap though, been so long since there has been any updates or progress... :(