All motor!?!?

[Jeff_G]

What is this all motor thing this forum section is about? No turbos!!!!

[Jason@JGY]

The most fun all motor car I ever had was my stripped down se-r that is now our drag car. It was consistantly faster the 5.0's and camaro's back in the day........until the 93 style camaro came out.

My oddest all motor car was another se-r with an SR16VE and close ratio transmission in it. It was not fast but felt fast. I revved it to 10,000. SR16's are like vtec motors, they feel fast driving them even when people are beating you in races, and people think they are cool. But I'd trade a stock 92 sr out of an se-r for one anyday.

[Jeff_G]

I just thought area looked bad with no posts so I posted in the section. Hopeing that some people would see that Non turbos can be fun!

[mickey93ser]

I wanted an All Motor SR but Jason talked me into boost...LOL I think he's a part-time Jedi using that mind trick stuff.

[Jason@JGY]

you wanted too much power for what was worth it. You will be much happier this way........and you get a turbo

[mickey93ser]

No need to sell it to me, I bought it...hook, line, and sinker. LOL

[TimSr20de]

How much hp would the 11/1 compression pistons jgy has give me? Would it be noticeable without changing the rods or boring my walls? and would i need head work for them?

(besides a cometic head gasket and arp bolts and studs)

[Andrew@jgy]

I'd have to ask my wife,

But if I were you, if I wasn't going to change rods, I wouldn't worry about the head gasket or studs and stuff.

Going from 9.5/1 to 11/1 with no other changes might gain you 30HP or so?


I love cheese balls.

[TimSr20de]

that's about what a turbo would gain on low boost, just cost less.

What would rods do to me? would it bump the hp up too or just lighter and help the motor, also will i gain rpms with the rods?

Also with the rods what else will i need besides head gasket and arp bolts? Will i need head work to handle the bottom? I'd kinda like to build the bottom strong for Nitrous ONE DAY. But wont spray much at all, kinda just to say i did it. But doubt it.

Will the stock crank hold the bottom end and will i need better rod and main bearings, maybe arp bolts for the bearings too?

[jholman]

In my opinion anytime your gonna change pistons or rods you should do the whole bottom end. If not the piston or the rod one will become your weak spot.

You could do a quality bottom end build that would handle any kind of power adder you want for not a lot of money. When you do it do bearings, rods, and pistons. The ARP stuff is a nice add on but the factory stuff works

[TimSr20de]

would you happen to know how much hp the stock bottom end on a sr20de will hold?

Will it hold enough to fully build the Head and bolt ons like header, full exhaust, intake manifold?

If the bottom will hold i think i will build the head, I think it'll give me more power for the money for now.

Lol i get carried away, my only question is how much hp will the bottom end hold on a stock sr20de?

[Jason@JGY]

[QUOTE=TimSr20de;5060]that's about what a turbo would gain on low boost, just cost less.
QUOTE]

you are using the wrong turbo then

a T25 should give you about 100HP.

Did you get our customer email about the sale we are running on our complete t25 turbo kit package that will net you about 205HP at the wheels? for less than $2k

[AnthonyB13]

Consider the source and then really think about where you are posting Tim. When buying from Ebay you get what you pay for, in every sense. While you may get a cheaper version of what you are looking for price wise, you are also looking at cheaper quality. That means it can blow up as soon as you put it in, or a week, or month down the road. The internet is rife with horror stories of Ebay turbos, all you have to do is search a little bit.

Secondly, you are on a forum that is dedicated to, and run by, a BUSINESS. Advocating the purchase from someone else, or advertising the products of someone else is not recommended in the slightest.

Please also keep an eye on the information that you post and how valid it is. Your comment of 1psi = 10hp just does not hold water as a number of factors have to come into consideration before you get the hp numbers you want.

Final word is keep on your p's and q's while on this forum, we like to keep conversations and such going, but within the realm of sanity and respect for others and for JGY itself.

[Jason@JGY]

and 100hp gain from a t25??? its stock at 165 hp to wheels. 205 hp is only a 40hp gain. Unless you push up to 10psi your not going to gain 100hp, that is why i'm asking how much hp the stock bottom can hold. Would 100hp gain on a stock bottom be too much with stock internals?

No offense but you can get the same hp out of a ebay turbo kit for $700. realisticly people get what they can afford. But if i had the money i would definately get a jgy turbo cause of the quality lol. Ebay turbo will blow up after too much boost and they only give you a tiny intercooler.

$$.

no...........I bet you $70 that your car makes about 120HP at the wheels. It's rated at 140HP at the flywheel. You are correct, I am adding up 100 wrong. You car with our turbo kit should make about 205 to 210 at the wheels which is about an 80HP at the wheels gain.

I've said 100HP for so many years that is why.......a stock Se-r (which yours probably isn't) makes about 100 to 110 on a real dyno.......so if I can get you 210 from our turbo kit, that's a 100.

What you may not realize is that an Ebay turbo kit is crap and made by a company that doesn't know Sentras.
Our turbo kit includes an $800 intercooler kit that is made for your car with 4041 aluminum, bead rolled, and tig welded......with 4 ply couplers.
Our turbo kit comes with the best fitting down pipe on the market.
Our turbo kit comes with larger injectors.

Anyone can put a turbo on a manifold, and throw some universal bends in a box with some Tbolt clamps and call it a kit............... = Ebay

You will spend $700 fixing the $700 turbo kit and making it work on your car. Just spend the $1400 here and be done with it.

P.S. Reggie might be taller than you.

[Jason@JGY]

What i read was 160 hp to the wheels, but you all do this daily and I completely agree with what you said about the stock hp now..I also said ebay turbo kits are poor quality and if i had the money i would buy a jgy kit. Now tht i know about the downpipe and realize i would have customer support for a jgy kit i will will consider buying one, once i figure out what i can do to get the most hp for the least amount of money.

Also the 1psi = to 10hp thing i heard from my girlfriends cousin that builds drag motors professionally that's why i said that lol, but he does v8's mostly.

Now my point in this is i'm asking alot of people about all motor or turbo, if all motor would i get more power in the head or the bottom and which is the best hp for the money.

Now for my question, AGAIN, lol. You all do this daily, all day every day so i know you know nissans more than me so how much hp will my stock bottom end hold in my sr20? :confused:


I wouldn't have him build my motor.

Think of this: a t25 kit on your motor at 13 psi............how much power would you have?
a JGY exhaust manifold and a Precision 60/60 turbo at 13 psi............how much power would you have?

ok,

on the bottom end question

with 9.5/1 stock compression and factory rods..........I would say about 250HP reliably

Happy New Year!

[Andrew@jgy]

Like Jason said I would not want your girlfriends cousin to build my motor because that is total wrong. And your stock bottom end on a sr20de will hold up to 250hp. Your stock tranny is also good to 250hp so if you want more then just ask us to do a motor build and then you can get more.

[Jason@JGY]

I feel like Family Feud.

"Good Answer Reggie, Good Answer"

[AnthonyB13]

I would trust him doing any motor build. Someone that has a mustang with just 400hp and can pull the tires as much as the one in my garage my father in law has with 1000hp. He has stock pistons too. also sprays 150 shot EVERY time he runs the car and has never messed up and has had it at the track every weekend for 3 years. Oh and has a 1500hp Cutlass and a 1600hp Mustang also.

Someone that has only 2000 dollars in their motor and runs 10.7 in a quarter knows alot about cars in my opinion.

I want to buy stuff from jgy but if your going to have disrespect about my family... I wanted support not your disrespect.

and i asked you the bottom end question 3 or 4 times and finally get a answer

Look man no one is trying to disrespect your family, it's an unfortunate situation that doing business with family usually comes back to bite you in the rear.

Trying to compare a mu-stank spraying nitrous, and any other US made car with no matter what horsepower has nothing to do with your motor being built at JGY. Simply because they have cars that do whatever does not mean they have the same level of knowledge when it comes to Nissan's and that is all there is to that.

If you are truly wanting to do business with JGY you should consider what you are saying and how it can be viewed from others. A lot of your posts are asking questions, and when they get answered you try to come back with something else as if you didn't get the answer that you wanted. While in this case you did ask how much HP, but you ended up on a tangent every time that was off the subject of your question completely. When your tangents were addressed, you would ask again, then go off on another tangent that would get addressed back and forth.

No matter how many times you try to compare what your family does with their cars, each engine build is different, and building a USDM motor is TOTALLY different than building an import.

My suggestion to you, if you want information, call the shop, be clear and concise about what you want to know. This way there is no doubts, and we don't have to spend this kind of effort trying to decipher what you are looking for and ending up in arguments such as this.

[TimSr20de]

yo i'm not tryin to make a big deal about this, i misunderstood her cousin also, i asked him if that's what he ment about the 1psi=10hp and he said no everymotor is different. I promis i'm not talking to some back yard mechanic lol he knows his stuff.

Also i don't wanna call jgy customs everytime i get a random question in my head lol. Plus i like getting on the site and looking at the parts then i ask questions in the forums.

sorry about the aruements i've been causing.......... my next question is does jgy finance or have a jgy credit card? Cause i realy want that 1400 dollar turbo kit lol.

[Jason@JGY]

yo i'm not tryin to make a big deal about this, i misunderstood her cousin also, i asked him if that's what he ment about the 1psi=10hp and he said no everymotor is different. I promis i'm not talking to some back yard mechanic lol he knows his stuff.

Also i don't wanna call jgy customs everytime i get a random question in my head lol. Plus i like getting on the site and looking at the parts then i ask questions in the forums.

sorry about the aruements i've been causing.......... my next question is does jgy finance or have a jgy credit card? Cause i realy want that 1400 dollar turbo kit lol.


Thank you!
I'm going to delete and edit the above posts then since we understand each other.

yes........you can pay XXX amount a month on the turbo kit......alot of our customers do.........but you will have to call us to do so. Our phone skills are actually better than our typing.

[Alexnissannursing07]

Just to throw this out there, power:weight ratio is my philosophy. Besides I'm a drifter, all i need is a little something to break the traction :) I liked reading this thread.

[TimSr20de]

Are you a PRO drifter? or do you just drift for fun? And will you tires even break loose to get sideways???

[Jason@JGY]

good one Tim!

[jholman]

I would like to have an all motor Nissan of some kind. I just believe I would go with a larger displacement engine than the SR.

Maybe like a VK56 something that already has a little grunt.

[cmdedge]

In my opinion anytime your gonna change pistons or rods you should do the whole bottom end. If not the piston or the rod one will become your weak spot.

You could do a quality bottom end build that would handle any kind of power adder you want for not a lot of money. When you do it do bearings, rods, and pistons. The ARP stuff is a nice add on but the factory stuff works

+1 on that one. Everything works together so you upgrade one you should upgrade the rest, and like he said after that you can add any power adder and get great support TT FTW.:D